Tash

level 1 Tash submitted about Apr 24, 2018

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New GS system (updated 16.05)

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I play in the RU server. Many of our friends leave from BDO. In Russian server full AP build was not popular. Most players balanced their characters for max evasion, max damage reduction, max accuracy... We had variety of builds and antybuilds... All of this dead right now... We have one meta - high AP. With new gear score system, boosting damage reduction, all highGS characters have non stop Tough Whale Tendon Elixir effect. One 20-4 can easily kill ten 19-3 characters... It's ugliest Pay To Win situation. All accessories for evasion, DR, accuracy lost any sense...
220 AP + 380 DP VS 280 AP + 320 DP... Same GS. But... 1- >2 5 skills to kill, 2- >1 3 same skills to kill... Same classes, same levels. This is not right. High AP player must have low level of defense. It's a core of MMO.
Sorry for that letter... Don't know what to do to be heard.


UPD-1 1-st balance patch

On RU applied patch... Minor decrease of DP. Situation - same as before. Accuracy, Evasion, DP builds have tiny bonuses, and have no sense. AP bonuses HUGE + DP...




UPD-2 Actuality of AP, DP, EV, AC builds


1. AP Build: 300 AP, 300 DP (~DR 200 +13% DR from old system = 226) + 201 AP bonus, +90 DR from GS. Result: 501 AP and 316 DR... 817 AP+DR

2. DP Build: 220 AP, 380 DP (~DR 250 + 20% DR from old system = 300) + 50 AP bonus, +90 DR from GS. Result: 270 AP and 390 DR... 660 AP+DR


3. Accuracy and Evasion builds - killed totally, because GS in this builds very low + evasion and accuracy don't change situation at all...


UPD-3 EV in real tests after 1-st patch


Evasion almost don't work. On 700+ 62 lvl evasion lands almost all Xes from ~300 59 lvl accuracy... 







UPD-4 62 Ranger 570+ (EV+Acc) vs 61 564+ (AP)







Combo: Spirit's Shackles (E),  Elven Rage (Shift + RMB), Flow: Disillusion (LMB), Waltz of Wind (W+F), Regeneration (slot), Nature's tremble (Shift+LMB). 20 attempts, best and worse - cuts off. Average results:

62 -> 61  56% HP cut.

61 -> 62  83% HP cut.


One more thing: Ranger can't equip DP offhand, evasion for her is the only way to stay alive.


UPD-5 Price


Some people says that the price of protective equipment is lower. However IMHO, price is a consequence of demand and efficiency. For example, the Basilisk belt and Centaur belt fall from only one type of monsters and approximately with the same ratio. Moreover, the belt of the Basilisk is constantly drops out with different events and from the chests. But the price…


In general, IMHO the price is a consequence.


UPD-6 RU Unlimited Donation + GS and AP bonuses = one man army






Thanks PA!


UPD-7 Last 2 patches

Huge PVE nerf:

4200 Aakman Guardian's Tokens per hour before, and 2900 after.

1800-1900 Hystria Ruins Fragments per hour before, and 1100-1200 after.

PVP nerf:

AP-ACU Ranger - Huge nerf. Glass cannon without any chance to stay alive in CC or in mass damage.

DP-EV Ranger - No changes. Can live, Can't kill.


PAY TO WIN system works. 1-2 weeks without changes and... RIP BDO. Foolish greed...









40 Comments

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  • 7

    level 1 AnarchyInUK

    Totally agree with you.

    Old system: accuracy > evasion, evasion > AP, AP > DP, DP > accuracy.

    New system: boost your AP, and we give you +150-200 AP for free, and +100 DP. One man army! 1 vs 10!

  • 5

    level 1 LumiNotOP

    +1. Yeah it's really unfortunate.

  • 4

    level 1 Arty_Kane

    Its time to fishing..

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  • 3

    level 1 Nika

    Same thoughts. +1

  • 3

    level 1 Kigirigi

    +1

  • 3

    level 1 Angelos

    I completely agree, the last patch on RU servers killed the game

  • 3

    level 1 FoxSash

    +100500!

  • 3

    level 1 Wade_Breaks

    +1

  • 3

    level 1 EvolutionRu

    Agree

  • 4

    level 1 Serrgio11

    Same thoughts. +1And just refrain from donating to the project

  • 4

    level 1 Arty_Kane

    1

    Its time to fishing..

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @Arty_Kane In another project.
  • 5

    level 1 LumiNotOP

    +1. Yeah it's really unfortunate.

  • 7

    level 1 AnarchyInUK

    2

    Totally agree with you.

    Old system: accuracy > evasion, evasion > AP, AP > DP, DP > accuracy.

    New system: boost your AP, and we give you +150-200 AP for free, and +100 DP. One man army! 1 vs 10!

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @AnarchyInUK

      Evasion don't work now... For what purposes needs accuracy?

    • 0

      level 1 AnarchyInUK

      @Tash Fixed. But overall situation is awful.
  • 0

    level 1 Ordalium

    1

    This one gear change boosted all geared characters, on Russian servers only true whales can offord PvP right now!

    One person playing RU BDO only two weeks bought on auction PEN ogre, got all gear boss gear to PEN using just F3

    It was funny to watch how so geared character cleared entire PvP training island, not taking damage at all!

    Glad i quit this game at right time, at start of massive downfall

    And : Starting with 610, the "Reduce damage" effect increases by 4 for every 7 points.

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @Ordalium

      Not all...

      300 AP, 300 DP (~DR 200 +13% DR from old system = 226) + 201 AP bonus, +90 DR from GS. Result: 501 AP and 316 DR... 817 AP+DR

      220 AP, 380 DP (~DR 250 + 20% DR from old system = 300) + 50 AP bonus, +90 DR from GS. Result: 270 AP and 390 DR... 660 AP+DR

      Accuracy and Evasion build - killed totally!

  • 1

    level 1 Konokolicious

    + bdo rip

  • 0

    level 1 Dreyfuss

    +1

  • 0

    level 1 graw_grafin

    +1

  • 0

    level 1 Dmitry

    +1

  • 0

    level 1 Oka1s

    +1

  • 0

    level 1 Safarid

    +1

  • 0

    level 1 Leeloo_D

    +

  • 0

    level 1 John_Smith

    +1

  • 0

    level 1 Wolgate

    +1
  • 0

    level 1 Maxim_Sheverdin

    2

    bullshit- yes it needs some changes but it finally will make ppl move their butts and also makes changes to warriors who in full def was able kill ppl with ult just with 180 ap and having 350+ def beeing preety tough to kill thrue thair shields

    • 0

      level 1 Dreyfuss

      @Maxim_Sheverdin

      soo they should nerf the skill, not change the whole pvp system!!!

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @Maxim_Sheverdin

      Maxim, do you understand the difference between class balance and equipment balance? I understand your emotions, but you miss the point...

  • 0

    level 1 smoke1985

    +1

  • 0

    level 1 Xandr

    +100 !!!!

  • 0

    level 1 DigitalDot

    2

    +1
    56 lvl no misses the mark on 61 lvl, does not work evasion

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @DigitalDot

      At all...

    • 0

      level 1 AnarchyInUK

      @DigitalDot Ah... +1
  • 0

    level 1 Anex

    Totally agree seems you read my mind

  • 0

    level 1 Alla__Svi

    +1!!!

  • 0

    level 1 Nemte

    1

    +1 the last patch on RU servers killed the game.

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @Nemte Turned to Pay to Win trash...
  • 0

    level 1 Xandr

    1

    I agree with every word! Please game developers to pay close attention to the existing problem!

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @Xandr IMHO RIP BDO.
  • 0

    level 1 Nika

    1

    Seems evasion and accuracy to heavy for the system... =)

    • 0

      level 1 Tash

      @Nika Seems so.
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